Comments on: New National Player Rules & Regulations

By: sj

sj — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 04:40:07 +0000

Balckjack - i think you will find clubs had copies of the new regs sometime ago and there have been meetings btw FFT and the clubs to discuss any issues arising. Once the clubs have the info its up to them to ensure that their club personnel are informed. The new regs are just that - new. The ceo will not have had the opportunity to test the application of these regs , and would therefore necessarily have to defer to FFA for confirmation on any grey areas. The majority of areas that the new regs apply to will cause little, if any, concern to clubs. The practice of allowing players to play without paying has always been at the clubs own risk, and now they wont be able to rely on FFT witholding next seasons regn on the basis of outstanding dues from the season before. This should be welcomed by clubs as a great opportunity to improve their early season cashflows.

Again FFT produces an annual report including financials which allows for clubs to understand how and where FFT spends the funds it receives from various sources. The AGM also provides clubs with an opportunity to seek further details if they wish. Would be interesting to see how many clubs have asked to see the full 2007 budget - it must have been done by now. That is - know what FFT is planning for the coming season and make a judgement NOW as to whether that is appropriate or not????

Allowing clubs latitude is what is always done - unfortunately SOME clubs rely on the latitude rather than attempt to do things promptly and correctly - hence latitudes are less likely to be forthcoming unless special circumstances exist (at least I hope thats the approach taken by FFT)

By: Blackjack

Blackjack — Thu, 07 Dec 2006 05:51:05 +0000

It’s early DECEMBER and FFT have only now (this week) managed to post the new FFA player rules & regulations.

Me, a footballing nobody, recognized the importance of these documents and managed to post them on November 15, but the governing body of football in this state doesn’t see the importance or urgency to post anything until this week.

Players, clubs and officials should have been warned and armed for the tasks associated with these new regulations, simply because the paperwork could be potentially huge.

I am lead to believe even the CEO is unaware of just what the rules and regs will involve. A number of enquiries have lead to a, “I don’t know” response. I hope a great deal of latitude will be afforded to the clubs when they struggle to have ID cards issued for all players over the age of 5.

FFT this is poor service to your stakeholders and is just not good enough.

By: Blackjack

Blackjack — Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:23:55 +0000

Brian, I agree. The solution? I believe clubs will have no choice but to bring in a policy where a player must pay the full year’s registration commitment BEFORE he/she plays a game. I can’t see FFT wanting to get involved in disputes between clubs when the FFA has implemented a law that clears allows a player to leave when he/she desires to do so.

I think it is also interesting to see that clubs will be required to clearly show to registering players where their money will go (insurance, FFT, referees, etc.). I wonder if FFT will be do the same thing for the clubs and show how the monies received is used.

By: Brian

Brian — Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:08:46 +0000

As you say above 9.2 is the area that causes most clubs imediate concern . The majority of other items are procedural and also only come into effect if we go down the path of professional soccer or import players .

Have a look at section e .

This makes reference to “local competition rules ” .

To my mind it is not fair to all . If the player can obtain a refund why can the club not refuse a transfer if the player has not met their obligations financial or other wise .

Perhaps the Club can try and recoup its losses by filing a greivance submission.

Perhaps FFT can include in its Competition Rules the need for a player to be financial before seeking a transfer .

I suggest your Presidents ,Secretaries etc have a word with the Club’s legal advisor.

By: Blackjack

Blackjack — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:05:07 +0000

Why do I have this mental picture of ‘Sent Off’ as this busy little beaver, burrowing his way through rules and regulations with papers flying around in his wake of industriousness. Does anyone else have this picture?? No?? Maybe it’s just me. Good onya lad, keep burrowing. Someone should snap you up as an administrator for a club…unless you all ready are.

By: Sent off

Sent off — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 20:14:33 +0000

Hey blackjack , had a bit more of a look at these rules last night , don’t believe we will have to worry about workers comp or tax , none of our clubs could afford to have a professional player , with the minimum wage payment requirement especially as it looks that the wage would be paid for 52 weeks of year .
We will all be amateurs - new rego form - photo id ( get your camera’s out secretaries ) from 5 to 60 year old must register on the form and i see clubs must justify (4.10) the registration fee they set for players in the competition they are playing to FFA , setting out levies - insurance playing costs etc and this has to be shown to players .
Does this mean FFT will have to come clean on its fees to the clubs and how they justify them ? as these costs will need to be included as part of club rego fees.
Also like 4.3 forms have to be lodged 30 days prior to competition commencing ! and reading 4.3 you wouldn’t want to be a registraton sec for a junior association !!!
Wonder if this means we will have to have new registration system .

I’ll keep reading !!!!

By: Blackjack

Blackjack — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:19:03 +0000

That’s the way I read it. Fill out the correct forms and off you go to another club (amateur players only).

This comes into force in January 2007 in EVERY state, not just Tasmania.

I wonder how clubs are going to retain players except put them onto some sort of contract and then the standard superannuation and PAYG (tax) laws come into effect.

The movement between clubs is going top be insane. A coach won’t know what his/her team will be until the morning of the match.

I have searched the FFT site and can’t find any mention of the new regulations but they must have been in receipt of these for a few months now.

By: Sent off

Sent off — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 08:03:48 +0000

From reading 9.2 my unerstanding is that if i don’t like the coach or the canteen lady for that matter i can leave and the club can’t stop me in fact if i haven’t paid my subs - tough luck they can’t stop me.

Is this your reading of this ???

So this comes into effect next year !!! in Tas ???