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	<title>Comments on: Are National Champs the best Development Pathway for our young players?</title>
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		<title>By: sj</title>
		<link>http://tasfootball.plebian.net/blog/20070131/are-national-champs-the-best-development-pathway-for-our-young-players/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>sj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand that various options for U19's and U16's have, and are, being considered including overseas travel. The timing of these is often difficult to sychronise to allow as many players as is possible the opportunity to participate. Amongst many other considerations school and University studies can impinge upon availabilities - especially near exam times.  The system we currently have is an evolving one, and will be modified as circumstances change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that various options for U19&#8217;s and U16&#8217;s have, and are, being considered including overseas travel. The timing of these is often difficult to sychronise to allow as many players as is possible the opportunity to participate. Amongst many other considerations school and University studies can impinge upon availabilities - especially near exam times.  The system we currently have is an evolving one, and will be modified as circumstances change.</p>
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		<title>By: corner flag</title>
		<link>http://tasfootball.plebian.net/blog/20070131/are-national-champs-the-best-development-pathway-for-our-young-players/#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator>corner flag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 05:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>giving my passionate football playing son an opportunity to acheive his dream did cost and still does money however it is a cost that i have been willing to pay as would any parent, its just a shame that more opportunites are not made available for our youth to experience what its like to play in front of different crowds/environments, yes it costs but from my experience when asked why we don't enter our boys and girls into other tournamnets cost always is there reason given however I believe that the organising of such an endevour is also a factor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>giving my passionate football playing son an opportunity to acheive his dream did cost and still does money however it is a cost that i have been willing to pay as would any parent, its just a shame that more opportunites are not made available for our youth to experience what its like to play in front of different crowds/environments, yes it costs but from my experience when asked why we don&#8217;t enter our boys and girls into other tournamnets cost always is there reason given however I believe that the organising of such an endevour is also a factor.</p>
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		<title>By: sent off</title>
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		<dc:creator>sent off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 01:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No Healthy Debate your Summarisation is not correct , yes my son did make a representative team , but no he has not been let down by his club.

He like a number of players at his club has been well nutured by the club and coaches , he has been given opportunities to further develop his skills and extra sessions to improve his overall playing technique.

Maybe the club you are or were involved with didn't do the right thing but not all clubs should be thrown into that barrell.

Club Football is the lifeblood of the game in Tassie , majority of administrators ( yes i am one of those volunteers and happy to be so ) and coaches are involved for the love of the game and mateship that can be developed .

We are not at the sexy end of the game - National champs - A lEAGUE - Institutes - like FFT , just what is best for the club and the game - sure we look after our club and attempt to bring best practices to our program - WE PAY THE FEES TO EMPLOY THE COACHES AND ADMINISTRATORS AT FFT .

If you want to see what clubs are about join one and then see how hard it is to meet the demands of FFT - parents - players and coaches.

As to your comments about 14 - 15 year olds - if they are good enough the clubs have and will continue to provide the opportunities - look at the mean age group of Premier League senior teams and you will understand what i am saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Healthy Debate your Summarisation is not correct , yes my son did make a representative team , but no he has not been let down by his club.</p>
<p>He like a number of players at his club has been well nutured by the club and coaches , he has been given opportunities to further develop his skills and extra sessions to improve his overall playing technique.</p>
<p>Maybe the club you are or were involved with didn&#8217;t do the right thing but not all clubs should be thrown into that barrell.</p>
<p>Club Football is the lifeblood of the game in Tassie , majority of administrators ( yes i am one of those volunteers and happy to be so ) and coaches are involved for the love of the game and mateship that can be developed .</p>
<p>We are not at the sexy end of the game - National champs - A lEAGUE - Institutes - like FFT , just what is best for the club and the game - sure we look after our club and attempt to bring best practices to our program - WE PAY THE FEES TO EMPLOY THE COACHES AND ADMINISTRATORS AT FFT .</p>
<p>If you want to see what clubs are about join one and then see how hard it is to meet the demands of FFT - parents - players and coaches.</p>
<p>As to your comments about 14 - 15 year olds - if they are good enough the clubs have and will continue to provide the opportunities - look at the mean age group of Premier League senior teams and you will understand what i am saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Healthy debate</title>
		<link>http://tasfootball.plebian.net/blog/20070131/are-national-champs-the-best-development-pathway-for-our-young-players/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>Healthy debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Sent Off, am I correct in summising that your child has played junior football at the highest pinnacle (state rep), and has finished with that particular program, gone back to a club and been let down by what they have to offer or treat junior players with ability?
If so then...............

Blackjack my point all along. 
From what I can see FFt has buffed up junior dvelopment, but that proffessionalism or level needs to be carried through to clubs.  What of a player that has a high level of ability, say is not picked at a state level u/15, who have over past seasons played at a higher age group and also regional, will go to a club and play u/16, when potentially could play higher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Sent Off, am I correct in summising that your child has played junior football at the highest pinnacle (state rep), and has finished with that particular program, gone back to a club and been let down by what they have to offer or treat junior players with ability?<br />
If so then&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Blackjack my point all along.<br />
From what I can see FFt has buffed up junior dvelopment, but that proffessionalism or level needs to be carried through to clubs.  What of a player that has a high level of ability, say is not picked at a state level u/15, who have over past seasons played at a higher age group and also regional, will go to a club and play u/16, when potentially could play higher.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackjack</title>
		<link>http://tasfootball.plebian.net/blog/20070131/are-national-champs-the-best-development-pathway-for-our-young-players/#comment-488</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 02:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything about representing your state or nation is extraodinary but it's an experience I would not deny my child for one minute, even at twice the price. And like any caring parent I want to make that experience the most positive and rewarding (on ALL levels) that I can. As a football administrator I want to ensure the service offered is of the best standard and appropriate for the majority, but assist the individual where I can. If it's not that way then I'm doing it for the wrong reasons and someone is going to suffer for it.  

For the fact you can't understand just HOW extraodinarily expensive it is to represent your state says to me that you have not been involved from a parental perspective for many years, if at all. So are you "shooting from the hip" on this one too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything about representing your state or nation is extraodinary but it&#8217;s an experience I would not deny my child for one minute, even at twice the price. And like any caring parent I want to make that experience the most positive and rewarding (on ALL levels) that I can. As a football administrator I want to ensure the service offered is of the best standard and appropriate for the majority, but assist the individual where I can. If it&#8217;s not that way then I&#8217;m doing it for the wrong reasons and someone is going to suffer for it.  </p>
<p>For the fact you can&#8217;t understand just HOW extraodinarily expensive it is to represent your state says to me that you have not been involved from a parental perspective for many years, if at all. So are you &#8220;shooting from the hip&#8221; on this one too?</p>
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		<title>By: sent off</title>
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		<dc:creator>sent off</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee Healthy debate i think you have made your point !! , blackjack has without doubt tried to extend the costs i think even he  must agree to some form of exaggeration with his estimated cost .

Both of you get on with life and look at the real issue....

From previous correspondents the cost is large , my families experiences having a child come through the program involving - trials - training - games - camps - local tournaments and then interstate tours was around $5,500.
Some would have been cheaper but being the football fanatic I wanted to be at training sessions took the family away for tournaments( local only )  to provide family support and such.
Great experience not cheap but worth it at the time ;
As a parent what did my child get out of it - valuable life experiences , opportunity to make life long friends playing the sport of choice, experience the difference in abilities and techniques other states were able to show.- standards they would like to one day achieve.
It is unfortunate that upon return - nothing has been provided for  any of the players to continue their development.
This is the area we should be concerned about - through them into clubland at 15 goodbye !
And yes , i recognise we the parents will have to further fund any program but maybe we are willing to take on that cost...

Why can't our under 18 team enter the Singapore tournament ????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee Healthy debate i think you have made your point !! , blackjack has without doubt tried to extend the costs i think even he  must agree to some form of exaggeration with his estimated cost .</p>
<p>Both of you get on with life and look at the real issue&#8230;.</p>
<p>From previous correspondents the cost is large , my families experiences having a child come through the program involving - trials - training - games - camps - local tournaments and then interstate tours was around $5,500.<br />
Some would have been cheaper but being the football fanatic I wanted to be at training sessions took the family away for tournaments( local only )  to provide family support and such.<br />
Great experience not cheap but worth it at the time ;<br />
As a parent what did my child get out of it - valuable life experiences , opportunity to make life long friends playing the sport of choice, experience the difference in abilities and techniques other states were able to show.- standards they would like to one day achieve.<br />
It is unfortunate that upon return - nothing has been provided for  any of the players to continue their development.<br />
This is the area we should be concerned about - through them into clubland at 15 goodbye !<br />
And yes , i recognise we the parents will have to further fund any program but maybe we are willing to take on that cost&#8230;</p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t our under 18 team enter the Singapore tournament ????</p>
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		<title>By: Healthy debate</title>
		<link>http://tasfootball.plebian.net/blog/20070131/are-national-champs-the-best-development-pathway-for-our-young-players/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>Healthy debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No haven't changed tack, but am legitimately questioning the        $10 000 price tag to play rep football at this age group.

I still believe that to play any sport at the highest level is an honour for that player, and to compete against the best from all States is a dream for many a sportsperson.  Yes there is a cost involved, but the above amount suggested is extraordinary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No haven&#8217;t changed tack, but am legitimately questioning the        $10 000 price tag to play rep football at this age group.</p>
<p>I still believe that to play any sport at the highest level is an honour for that player, and to compete against the best from all States is a dream for many a sportsperson.  Yes there is a cost involved, but the above amount suggested is extraordinary.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackjack</title>
		<link>http://tasfootball.plebian.net/blog/20070131/are-national-champs-the-best-development-pathway-for-our-young-players/#comment-480</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 22:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you concede that the cost from go to woah would be in or around the $10K mark, because you have now changed tack?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you concede that the cost from go to woah would be in or around the $10K mark, because you have now changed tack?</p>
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		<title>By: Healthy debate</title>
		<link>http://tasfootball.plebian.net/blog/20070131/are-national-champs-the-best-development-pathway-for-our-young-players/#comment-475</link>
		<dc:creator>Healthy debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 20:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I am not on the payroll, and It is obvious to me that I do not hold FFT or junior soccer within the region in the same light that you do - so negatively. If you have issues with FFT's junior program take it up with them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I am not on the payroll, and It is obvious to me that I do not hold FFT or junior soccer within the region in the same light that you do - so negatively. If you have issues with FFT&#8217;s junior program take it up with them!</p>
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		<title>By: Blackjack</title>
		<link>http://tasfootball.plebian.net/blog/20070131/are-national-champs-the-best-development-pathway-for-our-young-players/#comment-469</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 11:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had a child go through the state programme and I know what my wife &#038; I paid out in costs - eg. fuel/tyres/maintenace costs, meals, accommodation, uniforms, additional uniform items, travel to and from Nationals, physiotherapy, medical, food supplements, reference material (DVDs, books, etc.), boots, protective equipment, linements...

It all adds up. It's got nothing to do with travelling with Harry Kewell. This type of statement demonstrates how detached you are from the facts. 

Maybe FFT pays your way. Lucky you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had a child go through the state programme and I know what my wife &#038; I paid out in costs - eg. fuel/tyres/maintenace costs, meals, accommodation, uniforms, additional uniform items, travel to and from Nationals, physiotherapy, medical, food supplements, reference material (DVDs, books, etc.), boots, protective equipment, linements&#8230;</p>
<p>It all adds up. It&#8217;s got nothing to do with travelling with Harry Kewell. This type of statement demonstrates how detached you are from the facts. </p>
<p>Maybe FFT pays your way. Lucky you.</p>
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