July 26, 2007
Southern Leagues 27th-29th July
Tilford Zebras 3 v University 0
Self
Brazendale
Thorpe
Reserves: Zebras 2 v Uni 2
19s: Zebras 2 v Uni 2
Hobart Olympic 2 v Clarence United 2
Hedge 2 Bremner
Hunt
Reserves: Olympic 0 v Clarence 2
19s: Olympic 2 v Clarence 4
South Hobart 2 v New Town Eagles 2
Beecroft (pen) Rybak
Brown Shackcloth
Reserves: South 4 v Eagles 0
19s: South 0 v Eagles 4
Metro Claremont 3 v Kingborough Lions 1
Kent 2 Hinkley
Dawes
Reserves: Metro 2 v Kingborough 4
19s: Metro 5 v Kingborough 4
Taroona 1 v Glenorchy Knights 4
Wells Huigsloot 2
Fielding
Ladic
Reserves: Taroona 1 v Knights 0
19s: Taroona 1 v Knights 2
| Played | Won | Drawn | Lost | For | Against | Points | |
| Zebras | 15 | 11 | 3 | 1 | 51 | 15 | 36 |
| South | 15 | 10 | 3 | 2 | 33 | 13 | 33 |
| Olympic | 15 | 9 | 2 | 4 | 30 | 17 | 29 |
| Clarence | 15 | 8 | 4 | 3 | 29 | 29 | 28 |
| Knights | 15 | 7 | 2 | 6 | 26 | 27 | 23 |
| Kingborough | 15 | 6 | 2 | 7 | 21 | 24 | 20 |
| University* | 13 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 21 | 21 | 15** |
| Taroona | 14 | 2 | 2 | 10 | 12 | 37 | 8** |
| Eagles | 15 | 1 | 4 | 10 | 12 | 32 | 7 |
| Metro* | 14 | 1 | 3 | 10 | 15 | 43 | 6 |
* To replay fixture from 22.7.05 (due to referee error) - replay 1.9.07
** Washed out game yet to be played
Next week’s matches
Glenorchy Knights v Metro Claremont
New Town Eagles v Taroona
Clarence United v South Hobart
Kingborough Lions v Tilford Zebras
University v Hobart Olympic
University struck a vein of form in last week’s match and weather they must replay the game because of a refereeing error remains unimportant. Going into this fixture against current league leaders Tilford Zebras, the form is both needed and very timely. University has dwindled away as a force in this years comp so their current form, if it can be carried into this match, will add a bit of spice as they can influence who will be 2007 Premiers. A Uni win here and a South Hobart victory the next day will see a definitive new leader for the first time this season. The question that remains on everyone’s lips is, has Zebras gone off the boil? In reality though, Uni will have the vast majority of their quality players missing due to other commitments so the likelyhood of this match being a contest as first thought will not eventuate. Zebras will remain at the top of the table for this week at least.
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Olympic and Clarence clash at the Athletics Centre in a match that no longer has the attraction it did last week. The winner could maintain a mathematical possibility of toppling either South or Zebras but realistically this isn’t likely to happen, while the looser will be relegated to also rans for the year. There will be a fair amount of pride on the line though as both teams can finish higher in the premiership than they have in a few years. I could make a case for each team and their possibilities but frankly I think both teams will be completely deflated after last week’s reality check against Zebras and South. Olympic may just have enough to maintain bragging rights as the team that will finish third and the only reason this is so is because Clarence’s reality check was just a little too real for the team that shared top spot for quite a few weeks.
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South Hobart & Eagles could be an interesting match. Eagles with their first win of the season over the reigning premiers will allowed them to go into this one with a touch of confidence. Knights on the other hand are are a mere shadow of their former selves while South Hobart who arguably has the most enviable team list in Tasmanian football has finally started to show they can play football, even though it’s predominantly with athleticism rather than skill. A win for South will continue to maintain pressure on Zebras and I would imagine ‘Chippa’ Lapolla must be getting a touch nervous with a team like South breathing down his neck in this late stage of the 2007 competition. I believe there is a very real possibility in a change at the top of the table this week as Uni are capable of taking points off Zebras and South could easily deflate Eagles elation at skipping a few points clear of relegation.
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Sunday will see Metro take on Kingborough who are going through somewhat of a renaissance period with a couple of solid victories albeit against ‘lesser’ teams. Metro on the other hand are in a dark tunnel looking at an oncoming light, and as cruel as it may seem, this light is taking on the shape of a bloody great train rather than the end of the tunnel. A victory against Kingborough will see Metro level pegging with Eagles (assuming Eagles succumb to South) and will set them up for a ding-dong relegation battle that will be worth watching as Metro are yet to meet both Eagles (home) & Taroona (away) before the end of the season. So maybe Metro have something more to play for than just points which is all Kingborough can claim having no chance of climbing much higher than they currently are. Kingborough, if prepared properly, should be able to dispose of Metro without too much concern but I vaguely remember saying the same thing in the first round. One thing to note is Kingborough has a pretty good record at Chigwell having not lost there for a few seasons now.
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Taroona & Knights is a match where anything could happen. Will Knights be stung into action after their loss to co-cellar dwellers New Town Eagles or will they shrug the shoulders. The latter seems more likely after watching the match last Friday night. Knights are merely going through the motions, their season having been lost a week or two ago. I haven’t seen a worse defensive display than I saw from Knights last Friday night and if this is the way they intend to approach each game then the remainder of the season will seem a long way off.
Taroona are a team that seems to be going through the motions also, and yet this should be so. Taroona are a young squad that can take a lot of pride from their season so far. They have achieved more this year than Hobart United or DOSA could manage and if they have set goals any higher than surviving the drop from SPL then they were unrealistic. But they still have to survive relegation so their job isn’t over, so some of the players need to snap out of their own ‘dreams’ of greatness and get on with the job. My sources from last week (I was interstate for a wedding) tell me there were a few players only going through the motions against Kingborough. These guys, I presume, gave a commitment. So it’s now time for them to keep their word. Taroona can win this match if their put their heads together and play as a team.
Comment by Blackjack — July 26, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
zebras - uni 1-1
olympic - clarence 1-1
south - eagles 1-1
metro - kingborough 1-1
taroona - knights 1-1
Hbt Utd - Huon 3-0
Kingborough - Beachside 2-2
Nelson - Cannons 1-1
SOUTH - dosa 1-1
Comment by sj — July 26, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
aww c’mon sj….don’t sit on the fence
Zebra’s - Uni 1-2
Olympic - Clarence 2-1
South - Eagles 2-2
Metro - King 1-3
Taroona Knights 2-1
HBU - Huon 3-0
King - Beach 1-2
Nelson - Cannons 2-1
South - Dosa 1-0
Comment by A Whisper — July 27, 2007 @ 8:37 am
Would be nice, but can’t see Uni taking a point off Zebras, particularly if Shep is out & given the hammering of R&B last week at home
Zebras 4 Uni 1
Olympic 2 R&B 2 - will be hard fought
South 3 Neagles 0 (fewest conceded V fewest scored), but a tough match
Metro 1 Kingo 2
Now Roona v Knights could be interesting. Up & coming V on the way down, something to prove V disinterested.
Will go with he heart Roona 2 Knights 1
Good Knight, peck, peck
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Comment by Blackjack — July 27, 2007 @ 11:22 am
Just interested to know how both the Hobart Olympic v Clarence United at the Athletic Centre match and the South Hobart v New Town Eagles at South Hobart can be two of the televised matches this weekend….since they are both on at the same time and the same day….however in different locations….? Are there going 2 be two Mr Videos in Hobart tomorrow????
Comment by scouser_8 — July 27, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
Will there be two Walter’s doing the interviews after the games?
Comment by tasblue — July 27, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
Frank Mainella 3 votes. Kept Uni at bay - at least 3 excellent saves first half. Pretty boring game second half - early Zebras goal killed it off.
Comment by sj — July 27, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
Dear scouser_8 and tasblue, I’ll do the interviews at the Olympic v Clarence game and Mr Video will film that match. I’ve written the questions that the other presenter will ask at the South Hobart v Eagles game. Mr Video has another cameraman to film the South Hobart v Eagles game. We’d love to be at both games as they are both important.
Believe me, it’s a busy schedule for us all!
Comment by Walter Pless — July 28, 2007 @ 12:23 am
South 2 Eagles 2.
South’s chance ratio was 3 - 1 .
A good game from a spectator point of view as both sides had something at stake . As previously stated by a pundit Eagles have discovered how to score . Added to which is their ability to negate the opponents attacking schemes.
On the balance of play South were the dominant side however they were thwarted by the ” massses in the area ” .
Whether that excuses them from scoring is not for me to say except that at times the Eagle”s goal bore a charmed life .
On the other hand no doubt the Eagles coach will be congratulating his team on playing and sticking to their game plan .
Congatulations to South Reserves who have now taken out the title with a 4-0 win
The seafood marinara was delicious and enjoyed by the teams and officials of both Clubs.
Comment by Brian Roberts — July 28, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
Pretty much spot on with that comment Brian. South were in the box seat but Eagles are showing some resolve which seemed to be missing for the first half of the season along with the odd bit of luck.
Souths havent blown the title just yet, it may even come down to the last round.
BTW- what no comments on the Olyimpic-Clarence match - I hear it was interesting?
Did no one go or has BJ blocked all the posts ?
Comment by CLUTCH NTE — July 29, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
South v DOSA
Comment by Brian Roberts — July 29, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
South V DOSA
Reserves South 7 DOSA 0
one way traffic
Seniors
South 2 DOSA 1
Scorers South ; Franklin and Jarvis
DOSA Storey penalty
A good even game . DOSA tended to fade toward the end with the occaisional raid .South had the chances but failed to convert .
A great save by Hill toward the end kept the score in South’s favour.
Comment by Brian Roberts — July 29, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
South Hobart 2 DOSA 1 (1-1 at halftime)
Comment by Steve Pitchford — July 29, 2007 @ 7:10 pm
Everyone take the weekend off?
or at AFL match in Lton?
What happened to Boro?
Are Taroona safe?
Comment by sj — July 29, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
I notice the uni v metro game is to be replayed ?
any one shed any light on the reason ??
Gee ….. metro thumped 5-1 if i recall ??
Can you get any more convincing than that ?
Or metro trying to get what every they can in an attempt to get off the foot of the table by playing an under strength uni in a replay ??
Comment by shags — July 29, 2007 @ 8:00 pm
comments charlie ??
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Comment by shags — July 29, 2007 @ 8:02 pm
Think its a joke that 3 officials aged about 18 years old are in charge of the vital Olympic/Clarence match yet 2 out of the best 3 or 4 referees are at the South/Eagles match(Phillips middle, Barker line).
Cant believe a match with barely any bad tackles can have 34 fouls as per Walter’s report, barely make it to 45 minutes each half given the amount of time the balls spend out of play at Ath Centre. Definetely not a physical game as you would think, Olympic arent exactly a large side with most of the side being well under 6 foot (eg Bulis, Tsakiris’, Mason) and whilst Clarence play hard other than some of their defenders the mids/forwards are young, and lightweight.
As for Shags, take BJ’s advice and keep it shut. I recall Brett Pullen bagging Olympic’s chances for the title early season and then getting thumped 3 nil to them and also some very cocky South Hobart players after some recents wins and that backfiring on them with the draw to Eagle which has killed of their chances. Looks like another fortunate penalty was given to them against Eagles, just to add to the incorrect one they got against Zebras weeks back.
Full credit to Nick Lapolla for recognising the need to drop Pullen to defence as that will make them hard to score against and no doubt see them win the next 3 games fairly convincingly.
Taroona look in trouble and could very well finish bottom still
Comment by Juice — July 29, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
BJ
The actual reason for replaying the match is apparently that, according to the referees report, less than 65 minutes were played. FFT seem to be treating this as an abandoned game and replaying it in accordance with Rule 10(b).
Comment by sj — July 29, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
I understand the law BJ ..but was the replay due to a metro protest ?
or did FFT intervene before it could get that far ??
sry BJ
Comment by shags — July 29, 2007 @ 8:59 pm
juice ….. does age of the officials really matter ?
I would have thought that if they are up to it …… let them go!
the game didn’t have any dramas, so the refs must have been ok
Comment by shags — July 29, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Fellas
I’ve had a couple after our 1st win of the season, but I’m stil stuggling to underand those last 2 posts shags. Result of Uni v Metro game is simple. Wasn’r played in accordance with the rules. Let me put it this way. There is a very good reason why halves of a game are equally split, or would you prefer to kick against a howling gale for 25 minutes and with it for 65 or the other way round. That’s not what happened on Saturday, BUT, that’s the rules. Metro don’t make the rules, all we do is try and play to them the same as everybody else does. I am already on record as saying that if we had won the game and it was not in accordance with the rules, relegation or not, we understand that the game needs to be replayed. I guess the only way that can be proven is if ever it unfortunately happens again and we’re on the other end of the decision. However while I continue to be President of Metro that’s the way it’s going to be.
Blackjack I don’t think you’ll see anybody from Metro on this site bragging about today. Wev’e got a big game next Friday night, and we looking forward to that. End of story.
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Comment by g saunders — July 29, 2007 @ 9:08 pm
Now it’s all out in the open, 16 and thank God its a Sunday not Saturday.
By the way, again thanks to the good spotsmanship of the Kingborough lads today 1st for the minutes silence, and second for coming in afetr the game.Unfortunately Brad Hughes wasn’t still in the rooms when I got there to when I thanked him stepping up and doing the middle for the under 19s, and, a great job too. What pisses me off, if a side forfeits, you get fined. If a referee doesn’t turn up to referee the game, I’d be happy to learn what action is taken by the appropriate authorities. For the second time in two weeks the referee appointed to do the under 19 game did not turn up. There may be a reason for this, however a phone call to the home club to say that he would not be officiating surely would not have been too much too ask for. As a result of his non attendance we had a non official as a linesman in the reserves, and, that is simply not good enough.
Comment by g saunders — July 29, 2007 @ 9:30 pm
Shags, in my eyes an experienced/older referee would have not brandished one red card let alone three in that match and would have just cautioned Bremner and Mohamad, rather than sending them straight off. Bit off common sense. Yes the players should know better and both got sucked and showed no discipline, but just have a quiet word, yellow card them if need be and let the game play.
It seems that some major decisions in the past month by the younger officials have played too big a part in the title race and relegation battle. eg Zebras handball out of the box vs South, short halves Uni/Metro and the foul/red card happy match yesterday.
Refereeing isn’t an easy task and well done for all that give it a go especially the young ones but might be time at the business end of the season for the experienced refs to take control of the games, there should be enough around with Barker,Angel, Phillips, Sprod, Gadd and Ian Colhoun.
Good luck to Metro with the rest of their season, a very proud club who never give in.
Comment by Juice — July 29, 2007 @ 9:50 pm
correct me if I’m wrong Greg….
sounds like metro lodged the protest ??
and ……. win, lose or draw you would like the game replayed anyway ????
Comment by shags — July 29, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
juice …….
3 red cards ?
wow !!
sounds like the players thought they could whack one over the younger referee, played up and suffered the consequences
Mmmmm ….. in your words the players should have known better - so no-one to blame but themselves by that description !
Comment by shags — July 29, 2007 @ 10:35 pm
Shags,
not much having rules if we decide to throw them out because I don’t like them. If we’d beaten Uni, and, the game was not played in accordance with the rules, of course we would expect the game to be played again.
You don’t have to be Einstein to work out that after Walter’s column on Sunday and Monday that FFT would have no option other than to replay the game.
BJ, now I’ve moved on. Not another word from me.
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Comment by Greg Saunders — July 30, 2007 @ 6:42 am
Interesting that the behaviour of Olympic supporters has once again been brought to the forefront…and that people have stopped it this time. Will this bring sanctions?? I also find it hard to believe that some bloggers have criticised the age of the officials on Saturday. I think that people (who are not irate supporters looking for someone to blame) would agree that most of the 18 year olds going around are at least better referees than a lot of the more senior refs around.
Comment by redandblack — July 30, 2007 @ 7:33 am
Well said R&B.
The behaviour of people at the Olympic-Clarence game on Sat was a disgrace. I don’t really think that the decisions of the ref are any excuse for the abuse that was hurled about. Good on Jess and both of the assistants.
Makes me embarrased to be apart of Football in Tasmania, if that is the standard of behaviour that is associated with the sport.
Comment by anonymous — July 30, 2007 @ 8:49 am
I also agree with R&B and anonymous, the behaviour of some of the Olympic supporters is disgraceful.
I was at the ground for the U19’s and the same referee run the game and she did an excellent job, I thought.
We were in the stand for the senior game sitting with alot of kids and females and after the first red card, one Olympic supporter came up in front of us and stood right beside the guy filming the game and started swearing out loud at the referee right next to the microphone on the camera. The cameraman had to push him away and told him he was recording the game, the Olympic guy then started abusing him.
I feel that what ever the referee’s discision on the day, good or bad would get the same abuse from these sort of people, what they hope to achieve by their actions, I don’t know. However we left at half time because we had not stayed to put up with that sort of nonsense.
It is embarrassing for the game.
Comment by cjk — July 30, 2007 @ 10:28 am
It is to be hoped that FFT acts swiftly on the alleged spectator misbehaviour. Assuming the Referee or either of her assistants files an incident report a fine not dissimilar to some already handed out would not be inappropriate.
Glenorchy Knights and Western Knights both have lighter wallets thanks to fines for poor spectator behaviour and it would only seem fair if spectator misbehaviour is proven that a fine follows.
As for the Metro Uni game. I am reliably told FFT decided to have the game replayed and that neither club had choice in the matter.
Comment by interested spectator — July 30, 2007 @ 10:36 am
no surprises that the Olmpic supporters are involved - week in week out it seems something needs to be done.
Comment by D Train — July 30, 2007 @ 11:56 am
You can not blame all olympic suppoters for one mans comments.
Also not bagging refs or anything, but to players and supporters consistancy goes along way.
And if the young refs cant take a little heat out there in the middle it doesnt mean that they need to hold a grudge over certain teams for the rest of the day.
Comment by corky — July 30, 2007 @ 12:42 pm
If the crown behavior was as reported here, where was the ground mamger? ALL clubs must have one appointed for the day. Surely some proactive management could have resulted in the offending spectator being spoken to, warned and evicted if necessary.
Comment by Peter Pearce — July 30, 2007 @ 1:15 pm
Olympic supporters are always like this….they don’t mind doing it to anyone…and to be honest I don’t mind it when I am playing as it spurs me on…thing I don’t like is that the olympic supporters can never handle it when someone stands up to them and give it back….!!!!
Comment by Observer — July 30, 2007 @ 1:20 pm
I was at that Olympic game you wonder why you now have an A league with no ethnic ties. And why we continue to get trouble at games with ethnic background. Espically in Hobart where we all love our clubs and get very emotionally involved. You just have to look at the latest violence at melb. Action needs to be taken against that supporter.
Herald Sun story
Comment by Potenza — July 30, 2007 @ 1:58 pm
What was said?? There is abuse and banter. Down Taroona yesterday the “hangover hill” gang were spraying the knights all game with “Duck No.9 I’ve got a bottle here for ya” And “Hey, i’d bet you’d run faster with a T.V under ya arm” And that was just a few of the drunk one liners they had to say up on the hill with thier full esky rattling. It can be funny, yeah, i’ve been at games at KGV where some “happy” people have said some bloody good one liner’s in the day where you had a wet area outside, but for people to abuse not make a joke is a bit out of hand. As someone said, who was the match manger?? fingers must be pointed. It’s all policed strictly at KGV now with people even in fluro vests wandering around.
Comment by studzup — July 30, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
BJ I am offended by your response to corky. The huge majority of Olympic supporters do not act in an unacceptable manner. I do believe that 1 or two so called “supporters” (although they clearly aren’t as their actions are counter productive) have behaved incredibly poorly in recent times and should be banned from attending matches for a substantial period of time (as in years!). These people are not true Olympic supporters and do not reflect the attitude of players or club members. As for Potenza’s comment about ethnic clubs the most abuse I have ever witnessed came from a crowd at Taroona, followed in close second by Metro. In regard to the teenage referees I would suggest from the questions I have asked of them during and at the end of matches that some of them (particularly the one in charge of the Olympic v Clarence match) have not even read the whole law book, let alone know how to interpret it… and you wonder why players get upset with them….
Comment by Winston — July 30, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Shags. My comment to Metro is well done on a deserved 3 points. I have not made too many comments of late and have never criticised any team so am a little curious as to why you would try and get a rise from me. Metro deserved the win and after playing Taroona the week before, I believe Metro are playing with far more passion and determination than the Taroona boys who did not seem to want to compete. In saying that I also saw Beachside the other day and believe that they will not beat either of those two teams. There are not too many people on here who come on and ask to be told how well their team played but you have Shags, well done.
Comment by charlie white — July 30, 2007 @ 6:32 pm
Still finding goals hard to come across Charlie??
As I havent seen any Borough games this year and I was wondering who plays upfront.
Comment by the real bob — July 30, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
Big test for the new Olympic committee to see what they do about this situation. Difficult situation considering the one person continually responsible may be a Life member of the club.The president has been away for months and the vice president is not around much either. The other committee members still finding their feet and either have not been involved much before or they were involved long time ago and the times have changed!
Comment by Juice — July 30, 2007 @ 9:39 pm
On Sunday, I went to watch a mate play in a Div 3 game between University & New Town @ Olinda Grove, and there was a NTE supporter who unleashed some of the filthiest language I’ve ever seen directed at anyone in my life, nevermind the young referee who was the victim. This was after a penalty was given against NTE which was blatantly the right call.
The referee did the right thing by ignoring it, but I was disappointed that not one of the NTE players said a word to the supporter to calm down, but that wasn’t surprising when they were also verbally abusing their own young player. I invite you all to watch a game like that to see why there’s a lack of referees these days, who would put up with that for $30?
Comment by Ril — July 30, 2007 @ 11:26 pm
the real bob, compared to last year, yeah goals are hard to come by, we had scored 2 against Eagle and 4 against Taroona, so we had been a bit better in front of goals recently, Metro just had a good day and took their chances, we did not. Warren is playing up front with Michael Palmer generally.
Comment by charlie white — July 31, 2007 @ 8:35 am
What is even more frustrating about the Oly v Clarence match is that the decision taken by the referee to send the two players off in the second half was 100% correct. I don’t believe that any of our officials mind a bit of good natured banter…Ivan on the stadium side had a smile on his face on several occasions from comments made….but when people hurl personal abuse and threats at the officials when they get it RIGHT….that is when we lose them.
Tolerance and understanding go a long way folks….
Comment by A Whisper — July 31, 2007 @ 9:29 am
Agreed BJ - if one supporter steps out of line why dont the other fellow supporters bring him into line and whilst it may be harsh to suggest that this is the common problem with Olympic Fans - you would look at the facts and see that it is the case. It all stems from the top too, if your president behaves like that what do you expect from you fans?
Comment by D Train — July 31, 2007 @ 9:37 am
A Whisper, while the letter of the law may allow the referee to send off both those players in the second half it seems much easier these days to get a lengthy suspension for a harmless push that hurts no one or calling your own name when you jump for the ball than it is when putting in a dangerous and violent tackle from behind that threatens to cause serious injury to a player. That’s what upsets me the most.
D Train, if one spectator says something why is it another spectators job to step in? The poor behaviour should be dealt with by club authorities, but that takes leadership. As for the comment about it coming from the top can you offer your opinion on how the president of Hobart Olympic (Steve Kaproulias) does behave? (No, let’s not bother…BJ)
Comment by Winston — July 31, 2007 @ 10:07 am
studzup, while the Taroona fans on the hill were using their “drunken one liners”, and rattling the recycling bin full of empty stubbies, (which we won’t mention why it was stubbies and not tinnies) the Knights supporters had a few choice words of their own to say. As long as it isn’t too personal, shouldn’t be too much of a problem, and there weren’t any threats made. Didn’t seem to be much compared to the famous Friday Night Roastings at KGV.
Comment by overme — July 31, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
studzup, it was a recycling bin full of empty stubbies being rattled. Don’t really need to explain why…..
Some choice words from the knoghts fans too, wasn’t one way traffic from the hill.
Comment by overme — July 31, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
Just like to say a comment about the Taroona supporters on sunday. The hangoverhill boyz were simply brillant, all the knights boyz loved all the comment they had to throw at us, can’t wait for next year keep up the good work ( just hope it is the same score line)
Comment by 6 u l d v 8 — July 31, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
Rubbish…if one person is out of line most decent spectators that value their club and it’s good name will pull that person into line (and I don’t believe for a minute it was one person only - not from where I was standing anyway) or make things very uncomfortable for them. Your argument is a cop out Corky and tries to shift blame from an unruly rabble to a couple of decent kids trying to do their job. Sounds like you can hold a grudge quite well so why shouldn’t the youngsters. Poor form fella
Thank you for changing my words around to suit your reply BJ. If you were at the game then you would have seen that spectators from both sides were having a decent go at the refs, but obviously you are a one sided when it comes to watching soccer games. I was at the game and i saw that only a few Olympic supporters have a go but you have changed your views on many occasions in your posts. Just because i write in doesn’t mean that i am a fella you shouldn’t discriminate just like you did against the Olympic supporters from what I can see in your last post. If young Refs cant take the heat then they shouldn’t be out there i always say that and I’m not the only one who does. Its Tasmanian soccer and its gone downhill any other state the refs are fully trained and not so anal. If you think supporters are bad here go to any other state and see how refs are treated they cop more than us and they deal with it, maybe they know the game better i don’t know but something needs to be done about the refs in Tassie. I’m not defending the Olympic supporter for his out burst he should have kept his mouth shut. True supporters show passion and no one likes to see there team lose so maybe he got a little upset and carried away I’m sure you have at times. Oh and by the way i don’t hold grudges if i did i wouldn’t waste my time and write into the soccer forum.
This is not a dictatorship and people can write or say whatever they like.
No Doubt you will have a nice comment in reply to my blog
Be careful in your reply don’t address me as fella.
Comment by corky — July 31, 2007 @ 6:09 pm
Thanks for the kind words Charlie, a good win by the boys but Kingborough also gave us a very hard task. Young Doorsy, Aaron Marney and James Hope in form and was good to see. There were times the game could of gone either way but credit to our boys for standing up when it counted. Was quite an enjoyable game to play as always against Kingborough. As for our boys i think the work ethic at training and on the field last week just may keep us away from that relegation playoff
A bit of faith goes a long way!
Comment by metbrigade — July 31, 2007 @ 11:15 pm
6 u l d v 8
- some comments from the Taroona supporters sail pretty close to the wind, and they rely pretty heavily on the good humour of those they”attack”. Wouldnt be at all surprised to see them in hot water at some stage.
Comment by sj — August 1, 2007 @ 12:08 am
Well Corky..If its Ok to abuse refs on the mainland its Ok to abuse them here..As BJ says what non sense. I have been interstate and their referees crisis in most areas is as bad as Tasmania’s if not worse.
Only difference the refs there get over $100 a game not the $40 or $50 ours receive..
Corky just because someone gets paid (what ever amount ) doesn’t give others the right to abuse them..Its that sort of thinking that makes it almost impossible to get anyone to referee.
Comment by interested spectator — August 1, 2007 @ 6:24 am
The Taroona supporters were way out of line at Lightwood Park a fortnight ago especially with their jibes directed at Charlie White. I noticed FFT Chairman Steve Gasparinatos moved himself away from the rabble, especially one idiot. It makes you wonder where some people would draw the line or is anything open for discussion and/or ridicule??
It’s fine to have a laugh but you don’t bring in personal family crisis or issues that have a possible grave outcome for the person. What’s next? Catcalls and booing during a minutes silence for someone’s passing?
The clubs must start acting on some of this element who will unnecessarily drag a club’s good reputation through the dirt. Wise up lads.
Comment by Skylarking — August 1, 2007 @ 7:02 am
I preface my post by saying I have not been to Taroona to experience the hangoverhill boyz. However I have received second hand reports from several Knights supporters who are asking why unruly behaviour is alright at Kelevdon Park but not at KGV.
If as suggested by skylarking that FFT Chairman Steve Gasparinatos moved himself away from the rabble during the recent clash with
Kingbourgh, some might ask why he didn’t act on the behaviour in the same way he has on other occasions at other grounds???
I dont think anyone objects to a little creative good natured humour
but supporters need to be careful not to overstep the line.
Comment by interested spectator — August 1, 2007 @ 8:28 am
I arrived at the Oly v Cla game just on half time and was greeted by someone I knew with the words…”Watch out as you go in it is getting pretty heated in there”. When I reached some colleagues in the ground I was advised to keep an eye on one group of supporters who were extremely vocal to all around them including the junior players sitting in a group near the camera.
There is a difference between commenting on a decision and insulting the person that made it and when those insults become full of foul language and personal threats in front of young children it goes TOO FAR!
The day that the attitude ascribed to by Corky in this blog disappears from our game cannot come soon enough for me.
Comment by A Whisper — August 1, 2007 @ 8:30 am
Being on the field listening to the crap those Taroona supporters were dishing out to us at lightwood was particularly disappointing to hear. In regards to ‘us’ the players, and I am sure Charlie would agree it doesn’t bother us a great deal and as said before spurs us on….but I think it really shows where Taroona are at. The fact that they were down 4-0 and getting pumped and those donkey’s kept on giving personal abuse…was very disappointing from a crowd perspective. After the game numerous people indicated to me how immature and stupid their comments were, especially with young children and spectators there to enjoy the game.
Comment by Observer — August 1, 2007 @ 8:47 am
I didn’t say they were out of line, the people on the park seemed to enjoy it. And from were i was sitting the people replying to the boys up there we lady’s, and the worst i heard was “you sound like a broken record” which got the response from the hangover gang “sorry, we don’t use that old technogoly down here, we have these new things called Mp3s!” I heard a few that were below par, and when they were said the boys up on the hill were quick to go “öoooh” as to say that one was a shocker. But it was all in good fun, as many of the nights at KGV are ‘meant’ to be. But because of a bottle, this is no more. And from what i heard and seen the Knights got the rap for that even though it may have not even of been thier supporter. But who know’s….. It’s all over with now i guess.
Comment by studzup — August 1, 2007 @ 9:59 am
I don’t normally read the blog but a few people pointed out that there have been a lot of comments about spectators of Taroona. Reading the comments there are people for and against and as with all “banter” between supporters and players (as well as supporters and supporters) what someone finds humorous is not to other people.
If it caused offence to people then I would like to apologies to them.
I have talked to several of the people involved about the issue and it will be raised at our next committee meeting.
President - Taroona
Comment by barry — August 1, 2007 @ 11:41 am
Perhaps the difference between what the hangover hill lads say and what happens at other grounds is the difference between banter/jokes and direct abuse. The HH boys make jokes - really bad, sometimes drunken ones, but they are still jokes, not direct abuse. There is a fine line, and someone will always get offended. But do we want our grounds to be totally quiet?
Comment by KP — August 1, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
Fair enough BJ, I think we’re both making pretty much the same point
Comment by KP — August 1, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
Full Marks to barry President Taroona..doing something proactive to address what some perceive as a problem..certainly a change from some others who just want to defend bad behaviour by spectators..I like BJ take my hat off to you
Comment by interested spectator — August 2, 2007 @ 7:27 am
Interesting that nobody mentions the abuse and foul language that is at times directed at the spectators by the players. Some of the things i have heard that have been directed at supporters should have resulted in a red card. An audible obscenity is auto send of, but after seaming to enforce this rule in its first season it now seems to have almost been forgotten.I suppose that comes down to the men and women in black and from what i have seen this year some of them cant see either!
Comment by one eyed — August 2, 2007 @ 9:44 am
I think the issue really is that FFT has set a prescident in fining certain clubs over behaviour and now they have to continue that or it will cause an uproar. I think every player in the competition would agree that banter and things from the crowd is a drawcard as a player and it is also what draws in crowds in the first place (hence the 5 people we get at games these days). By all means police the bad behaviour and the people who are there to cause trouble only but please let common sense prevail and keep those laricans coming along!! funny to see Mr Gasparinatos not reporting these boys as quickly as he did in the first round at kgv isn’t it? (said with a cheeky smile of irony) Abuse NO!! Trouble making NO!!! Banter, Wind ups and pirochial support A BIG YES!!!!
Comment by Corey Smith — August 2, 2007 @ 10:51 am
Hate to say it but have to agree with you there Corey… there are some things that you want from a crowd and there are some that you dont. The funny thing about the Taroona crowd is that they aren’t bias towards their own team, they occasionally throw comments at their own players… In saying that though some of their comments last week were a little over the top!
Comment by He is having a mare — August 2, 2007 @ 11:26 am