October 20, 2007
Tasmania v South Australia
19th October
Tasmania 2 v South Australia 1
own goal 36′ Reeves 46′
Brazendale 73′
20th October
Tasmania 2 v South Australia 3
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Roach Vickery
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Im pretty keen to watch the state game this weekend, and to be honest I’m not sharp on the current squad members. But I’m assuming its just players based in Tassie. Has there been any thought about having some of our players based, in particular the VPL, come back and play in this fixture.
Surely this would be an attraction for fans to see how these guys compare. Plus it would something for the players to strive for, both local and those based on the mainland
Comment by tennis elbow — October 17, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
Welcome tennis elbow. The team selected is a state team (Tasmania based). There are Tasmanian players playing on the mainland but contractual arrangements would prevent them playing in this fixture I believe.
Where does your football interest come from if you’re not familiar with the local product??
Comment by Blackjack — October 17, 2007 @ 9:18 pm
I would completly agree with the great tennis elbow on this one, perhaps contracts would restrict them from playing, but was the questions even asked of the players else where as to whether they would be available? I would think not, but surely it would be something to consider for next year game! aslong as they are not professional there is no reason I can see that they couldnt be invited! get them down for two training’s sessions or so to get to know the players and make a bit of pride in playing for your state!
Comment by Captain Australia — October 18, 2007 @ 8:34 am
which players would u be wanting to come back though????
Comment by Hotshot — October 18, 2007 @ 9:32 am
Looks like the women’s possibles v probables match is off if the FFT website is anything to go by. No explanation, no word on why, it just changes and everyone is expected to just get on with it. Jeez, does anyone know anything about promotion of the game down there, or at least communication??
Comment by Blackjack — October 18, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
Maybe the girls have just been told that yes you are representing the State but by the way it is going to cost you $$$$$$ .( approx 2,000) No we won’t be assisting but isn’t grand to be selected to play for Tasmania at a invitational women’s tournament .
Comment by Oncesackedcoach — October 18, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
Nothing would surprise me OSC…
Comment by Blackjack — October 18, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
I have a friend who was a promising youth at Southampton, he now lives in Tassie, who incidently would be an asset at any club, unfortunately the standard of games and trainings have disappointed him so he threw it in. He has found it amazing how much players selected for rep teams have to fork out, he was used to kits, boots, rego, trips etc all being paid for. Bit of a culture shock.
Comment by Tommy — October 18, 2007 @ 3:54 pm
about the posts about the contracts and not letting people from the mainland play for there state, im sure my club would let me play if i was selected to come back and play for tasmania as we have been in the off season for a number of weeks now and it would be good heading into pre-season training in a couple weeks time, i would definatly accept if i was selected to play and i would think the other boys like james sherman who has just played in the vpl grand final would definatly come back and play to
Comment by mathew sanders — October 18, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
G’day Blackjack, just an interested observer that wants to see football become a better product. I just thought that a truly representative state team, could potentially be a flagship for the game in Tassie.
It would need to be done right, good coaching structure, reasonable number of games (more than 1 at least). After all isn’t representative sport a big part of what makes sport attractive to watch.
Additionally a good representive team should have the effect of increasing the quality of the local product.
Comment by tennis elbow — October 18, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
Tommy - from a club level do you know how much it costs to put a Premier league side on the park? Unfortunately there are limited sponsors and dollars available. Sorry the profile is not big enough yet to get the sponsors to throw more to the clubs. Hopefully if the likes of Wakter, Bj , Aurora and Win continue our profile will increase and there will be more dollars available to the clubs and they can offer incentives as your friend was used to.
Comment by Peter Pearce — October 18, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
From my understanding the VPL has selected a state side, players can travel and play with that side without any club objections, i dont see why Nsw, WA or Tasmanian players should be any different
Comment by Borat — October 18, 2007 @ 8:53 pm
So why Clarence v University Under 19 I wonder…. 1st v 9th…. hardly a contest to get you excited. Maybe a 1st v 2nd (or something closer) would’ve been a better showcase of the local youth for those that don’t normally go to the games, or are involved with SA.
Of course I’m not suggesting that FFT would actually ever think of anything in regards to a good contest, or something to attract new fans!
Comment by Ril — October 19, 2007 @ 12:26 am
Peter I completely understand, it was merely a comment highlighting the different cultural status of a global game.
Comment by Tommy — October 19, 2007 @ 9:18 am
I am advised today that Eamonn Kelly is unwell and in hospital. Does anyone know more?
Comment by A Whisper — October 19, 2007 @ 10:23 am
Ril, Uni U19 did beat Clarence 1-0 when they last played. With Hamish back from the World Youth Athletic Championships and in goals for the last 4 games of the season, the Uni results certainly improved. So perhaps instead of looking at the finishing positions solely, you also need to look at the game results in the latter part of the season.
Comment by Kev — October 19, 2007 @ 11:43 am
Lack of marketing prowess is once again clearly evident from FFT.
There has been little to promote the game, and no you cannot blame the mercury.
There are many suggestions for example. sms, supporters etc, mail outs, TV adverts. Whilst you may not break-even on this event.. anyway i have had my winge, it time for FFT to develop a clear marketing strategy and actual engage some to implement it.
A frustrated supporter of football
Comment by ajp — October 19, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
ajp - one of the newer board members is working on the marketing side, and as i understand it, has had a fair say in the format and placement of the mercury ads, boags marquee for kgv, minor sponsorship of the event etc. , signs on showgrounds fences on brooker highway etc. selling tickets through centretainment… I have heard of the game yesterday and today on HOFM and ABC, and the WIN TV sports section again last night. This excercise was never anything to do with breaking even, but rather accepting an opportunity that arose for Tassie players to represent their state. At the same time the spend (on top of considerable staff time) on organising and advertising this event has to be reasonable, and on balance i think it has been.
Comment by sj — October 19, 2007 @ 2:46 pm
well done Tassie, great game from Aaron Brazendale should have had a brace next to his name ,no wonder Bart won the Vic a joy to watch. Apparently the ref was absolutly s%#! according to the S.A coaching staff and players with one overjoyed the same officials wont be in charge tomorrow. On ya Kim great job except for the missed penalty in the last 5 mins.
Comment by one eyed — October 19, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
One eyed..Kim did do a good job and lets hope tomorrows official is as tolerant of the language..Its obvious in SA they don’t have zero tolerance…Yes SA coach was animated in his behaviour but his team management say he was quiet tonight and I reckon at least he gave the small crowd something to laugh at..Also ..ajp..as sj explained the game received considerable coverage on southern cross,win,HO ABC ultra106five..while WIN filmed the entire match… considering Walter has been in hospital (or at least in for tests at hospital) its not surprising the merc didn’t have more to promote the game. I also understand the SA amateurs cant believe the media interest..at least one was heard to say..we cant get the results in the paper back home..Also on the smallish crowd..what do you expect when FFT runs a competition against itself..they could have trebled the crowd by canceling Futsal tonight and giving each registered futsal player a free ticket..
Comment by interested spectator — October 19, 2007 @ 9:38 pm
Agree totally with the sentiments re Eamonn BJ. Well said.
Grats to the Tassie boys on a good win.
Comment by A Whisper — October 20, 2007 @ 10:32 am
surely they could get a decent team to play against? why not a VPL team or something? even one with some tassie players for example green gully or whittlesea or someone in their pre season or post season. Those old blokes were very ordinary competition for the tassie boys and tassie could have won 6 nil if things went their way…………. good work on the media coverage on news both channels…… i am sure FFT would have let the mercury know more about it but the mercury is very reluctant to give the round ball game a plug at any time as we know! ryan smith was very solid i thought all night and azza best on pitch could have bagged a few….. how good was the ex tassie keeper Robbie Greenwood for SA……. only thing holding the old blokes together…….
Comment by Corey Smith — October 20, 2007 @ 11:59 am
I thought Jon Ladic was brilliant in the first half. I thought Bart was quiet, came into the game as it went along but he wouldn’t have been in my best three on ground. Tom Roach was a no show. TT and Crosser were fantastic when they came on. Deserved win, should have been more with some of the chances that went begging. Well done guys.
Comment by Tommy — October 20, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
SA 3 tassie 2 in lton
Billy G & Roach scorers for tassie. Tassie led 1-0 from a billy g scorcher from 25 but were 1-1 at halftime. Went 2-1 down in second half before Roach equalised. SA scored in injury time to win. Another physical encounter. this time Brown for tassie was stretchered off with 7 mins to go which meant pitchford, as the only remaining of the 5 subs, got a run on the field at left midfield. TT, Brownlie, Crosswell & lo had all been subbed through injuries.
All 4 officials missed the exchange of punches midfield 5 minutes from the end, but no real damage was evident.
Comment by sj — October 20, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
Watched the 13 and 14 teams play some good footballers in amongst them , spoke to a couple of people atr the ground - believe they have been to Newcastle and Melbourne recently ? how did they go ? who did they play ?
Comment by sent off — October 20, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
Well sj..what did the weekends excercise prove… our best are as good as the South Australian Amateurs ???? (I understand thats about..Div 5 in South Australia) Sad to say our game has really fallen ….. 10 years ago when we held our own against the NSW state team and a club side from Japan…I would hate to guess what at VPL team might have done to us ….As corey right said those old blokes were very ordinary competition……. but at the end of the day we never showed our game was any better…
Comment by interested spectator — October 20, 2007 @ 9:01 pm
Is that the fault of the players ? coaches? or the administration ? and isn’t it grand that we have a go at our Stste teams boys 14-15 for not getting better results, agree with I.S. how bad is our league , be honest since the demise of State league we have gone backwards !
Comment by Oncesackedcoach — October 20, 2007 @ 9:16 pm
I think the excercise proved that we lacked someone to take the chances that the team created - in both games. The opposition played a very physical game and thats not something the majority of our players are used to. They also are not used to playing two very physical games within 20 hours. Both teams had players carrying knocks at the end of the second game due to no fit players left.
The team spirit shown was fantastic. Ask the players, and staff, whether the excercise was worthwhile - i think they would all say yes.
FFT simply took advantage of an opportunity that presented itself - they could have said no, but were prepared to offer players an opportunity to play for their state at senior level.
Hopefully there will be further opportunities. Many discussions about visits to tassie, or visits elsewhere, come to nothing because of timing, finances and the like.
I would like to think this 2 game series will assist in making future series more likely.
Comment by sj — October 20, 2007 @ 10:07 pm
SJ as a parent of a player and an ex FFT employee i can understand your coments but gee lets be honest they are an amateur team, not state league . it just shows how far we have slipped , forget A League lets go bo back to VPL as a start to our possible involvement at next level, !!!!!!
Comment by sent off — October 20, 2007 @ 10:38 pm
Can anyone provide an update on the injuries from yesterday?
Comment by Peter Pearce — October 21, 2007 @ 6:54 am
the curtain raiser on friday night was an interesting one, it was meant to be a friendy yet clarence put in an u/19 team which consists of ONLY ex-state and premier league players, why would they not have out in their team which won the league. uni finished on the bottom of the ladder so why does it matter plus it was only a friendly game. the club wonders why people are getting upset with the way clarence has run itself this year. Browny cliams to hate the way the state program run itself and yet thats exactly the way he is running it.
Comment by hmmm — October 21, 2007 @ 10:11 am
Peter - only ’serious’ knock appeared to be Daniel Brown with ankle ligament problems. No doubt time will tell just how bad it might be.
Comment by Steve Pitchford — October 21, 2007 @ 4:58 pm
I note with interest the disparaging remarks concerning the ability of our representative side and their opponents . Of the S A side no comment I no nothing about the set up over there . Perhaps before springing to the key board some one could give us a presentation on the S A setup and where our opponents stood in the pecking order .
I don’t beleive they were all in the sere and yellow classification .
Re our reperesentatives much the same applies , what substructures were in place when we last played , I am sure that prior to the NSW match we engaged in an irregular series of matches thus providing some preconditioning .
Are we in Tasmania leading to sheltered life from both player and official’s point of view.
I look forward to non emotive responses.
Comment by Brian Roberts — October 21, 2007 @ 5:26 pm
hmmm you are wrong about the players that played on friday check your facts first and the only people that are getting upset about the way the club is run are the people that no nothing about the way the club is run.
Comment by one eyed — October 21, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
Sent off. curtain raiser was U-13 NW v North, they had jst come back from Newcastle. they played mainly rep sides, a couple of David Smiths teams, some U-12 some U-13 some U-14 teams, all friendlies no carnivals. All teams were great, the games were all competetive and some high quality football was played. I spoke to David Smith a few times while we were over there and he is of the opinion that Tassie’s football is improving every year that he sees it.
As for Saturdays game, 4 boys didn’t play as they were being tested by TIS this morning in Hobart, but the game was great. Congrats to Launy City for the ground there was a great feeling at the ground, it looked great. I really enjoyed the spirit that the boys played the game in, the Newcastle trip has forged some real frienships.
What a shame the South Australians didn’t understand the meaning of a friendly. Who were they? I felt it was a bad advert for our game for the kids. The S.A. teams were moaning, swearing, hitting, kicking, bashing etc. It seemed to me they intimidated the ref into submission and the Tassie boys had no protection. I enjoy a physical game but not a dirty one, acouple of their boys should have been off before half time. Tassie played some great football some of the runs off the ball were brilliant and split the defence in half. Well done Tassie boys, in the circumstances you were great, perhaps somebody needs to have a better look at who we play next time.
Comment by Hugo — October 21, 2007 @ 9:03 pm
Brian..The South Australian Amateur Soccer League Inc. describes itself as the major organizational body for non-professional soccer in South Australia and is the State’s largest management body for
senior level Amateur Soccer.
The FFSA runs three leagues..(lets not take a leaf out of this book.)
The 11 team Best League..the 10 team Best Premier league and the 8 team state league..Best appears to be a Brick and Paver company..
But regardless SA have an elite top league followed by a premier league followed by a state league.Below these three leagues is the South Australian Amateur Soccer League..effectively Div 4.
In regards to sj comments..The opposition played a very physical game and thats not something the majority of our players are used to… and we lack someone to take the chances that the team created..
both underline my summation the overall standard of our game at senior level is poor and nowhere near what it was 10 years ago..returning to state league wont help this only hard work and dedication by players and coaches will.As for Hugos observation of referees being intimidated into submission..I can tell you its didnt happen friday night so perhaps the depth of referees is on a par with the depth of talented players.
Comment by interested spectator — October 22, 2007 @ 6:02 am
Who would want to be a state player to read the couple of grossly uninformed negative comments above. If the writers of those comments had half a clue about the SA team or ours or had half a grain of decency, they would hang their head in shame. Our lads trained hard and played with flair and commitment and did us proud.
If any state players have read the negative comments, be assured that they are from a small minority and that the majority of people who saw you play are very proud of you and rate you very highly
Comment by exis10shalist — October 22, 2007 @ 7:22 am
For all the bad press the game has recieved in and around the football circles of Tas, I felt this was a step in the right direction! lots could have been done to make it better, but for the first attempt in many years, the efforts were good on all parts!
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Thanks should go to the Crow eaters (or Pie eaters as it seemed on the surface) for making the journy and giving us an opportuntity to see where we are at! we have all been bagging FFT for the lack of this and that, but at the end of the day, had we played the SA first division, we would have been smashed 10-0 I believe, This was a good way to move to bigger things with out being demoralised.
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well done to the tassie boys on two great efforts, showed what they can achieve on limmited prep and shoe string budget! I talked to MArtin Shaw about inviting guys like mr Saunders over for future fixtures, he was not closed to it, just didnt cross their minds I dont think! A point to think of in furture!
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We attended both games and while some may have felt the crowd was down on expectations in Hobart, given the conditions it was pretty fair I thought, would love to see what could be managed with a big push in the press and a lovely spring afternoon! dont bother giving the north any more games like that for a while, we had perfect conditions and bugger all turned out!
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Bad points! In Launceston the SA team were a disgrace to the term sportsmanship! Whilst I dont really mind if people swear in their own circles of conversation, when there are countless kids around and these grown men are dropping the F bomb like it was a cup cake made entriely out of acid, its a disgrace! then the needless argie barge and cheap shots behind the play in a friendly plus the rain makers thrown in a near all in brawl was enough to open up a state war on the pricks! Then the lack of sense of occasion when they won and celebrated like it was the FA cup! again much needless use of the F bomb with in earshot of many 6-14 year olds and they samcked each other round like a group of cave men! this was completly out of the spirt of the game! I didnt see that sort of behaviour from the Tassie lads the night before in the 2-1 win to Tas!
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A vote of absolute no confidense in the refs on this occasion as they had completly no idea of how to control a situation destened for an all in punch up! you have cards yellow and red! get em out early at the first sign of mallace and bringing the game ito disrepute, I am sorry but the referee’s were as poor as the tallent on show from SA on Saturday and this left a nasty taste in my mouth on the way home!
Comment by Captain Australia — October 22, 2007 @ 7:56 am
Totally agree C.A.
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I had just coached a great game with the U-13’s and suggested they all stay to watch, many parents were shocked and disgusted with the S.A. behaviour, lack of sportsmanship and lack of control from refs.
I too left with a bad feeling in my head.
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I believe Tassie boys would have been able to show thier talent better against a better team, they were on a hiding to nothing out there. However I congratulate FFT on bringing other teams here, I hope we didn’t have to pay this louts though, if we did all we were doing was funding an end of year trip.
Comment by Hugo — October 22, 2007 @ 8:42 am
Thanks interested spectator for your response.
Comment by Brian Roberts — October 22, 2007 @ 8:54 am
exis10shalist..I would prefer to think the comments of many are realistic rather than negative ..there is no use talking up our performance when for whatever reason we only manage a draw over two games against anything but quality opposition.No one is denying our guys put in 100% training hard and doing their best and we should be proud of them for their efforts..Also it was a valuable experience as CA points out because it tells us what about the standard of our game..However we can do one of two things with this information 1. say how good we are because we held SA to a draw
or 2. we can say much more needs to be done to improve our game
because we didnt beat South Australias best 4th division players.For mine always much better to face up to the hard question which doesnt have an easy answer….. as for..half a clue about the SA team …I have it on very good authority they trained together friday arvo after a bonding session thursday night where they met each other..dont think I want more of a clue than that..would end up extremely negative.
Comment by interested spectator — October 22, 2007 @ 9:01 am
Interested spectator..no one is suggesting we talk up our state team if they don’t deserve it. Same as no one is saying we did well because we held SA to a draw. What I am saying is: the way they played clearly shows they do in fact deserve praise for their skill level and general style of game they played. You calling the SA team a 4th division team is erroneous and by inference, denigrating our boys. The fact is that we are amateurs and we played the best amateurs SA could muster, nothing more nothing less. If you do a little research, you will find that many of the SA team have been professionals who have come down to the amateur league. Apart from their dirty play, they weren’t 4th division mugs as you infer. Also, our boys deserve great praise for keeping reasonable cool with the dirty play and intimidation that was unfortunately not addressed by the referee or his assistants.
I agree, more needs to be done to improve our game and it IS being done. However, if people expect overnight results, they know nothing about football and they are being unrealistic. Generally, I find those sort of people are the ones who unfairly criticize and yet, they have no constructive or workable solutions to contribute.
Comment by exis10shalist — October 22, 2007 @ 11:13 am
I think a number of things can come out of the game, one Tassie performance wasnt as good as it could have been, as I watched both games with CA. The opposition was poor, and I believed we should have smashed them in both games. We certainly would have won the first game by at least 3 but for poor finishing. On the way home, TT and I both agreed that Tassie should smash SA in the 2nd leg, as they were struggling, and were generally unfit. SA however changed tatics in the 2nd leg (realising they were totally outclassed), and played the man, it what I can say was one of the worst displays I have seen on a football pitch for many years (total bunch of fugs). They set the worst example for their state and association. The referees certainly didnt help matters. This had an adverse effect on our lads, and certainly didnt allow them to cocentrate on their games.
Opposition aside, I think this is an excercise that needs to be continued, it gives our players something to strive for, and is good experience for our players. As for a game in Lonnie, well I agree with CA we have supported either rep game up here, maybe Valley Roadd
Comment by RANGERS BOSS — October 22, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
Sounds like we will have to beg to differ..exis10shalist..I cant make a case for the South Australian Amateur team being anything other than 4th Div players.CA and Hugo and many others appear to agree our opponents were dissapointing…While I am sure many of them in their time could have been professionals they are no longer and their very manner of play confirmed this..As for unfairly criticizing and yet, not offering constructive or workable solutions to contribute…Hows this one..Perhaps for next year we could invite the winning PL teams from the Gold Coast , NNSW and Capital football to play a four team round robin.I am certain Lake Macquarie The team that won the NNSWFL title or South Tablelands from the capital football league even Burleigh Heads on the Gold Coast would provide young fit players and a serious challenge for a combined Tasmanian PL side…As posted previously its not negativity its reality thats important.
Comment by interested spectator — October 22, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
Okay well ‘one eyed’ how about you tell which part of that clarence team friday night was not filled with ex-state players and seniors? i could not see any and considering my involvment with the club i think i may know who players are. And lets not make such a generalised comment on how i do not know how the club runs itself as perhaps it is you who needs to get their facts right. Yes i was upset when u saw the line up friday night as i think that U/19 team from this year was not given a chance, why put the senior boys in when you have a perfectly good team which WON the league??? that the bit that confuses me, and the same question was raised by members the uni team. But yet again its the same boys that were given a run in the senior and reserve team all year, why not give some of the other boys a chance? If the club continues this way, with this lack of communication they could find themselves move to other clubs which would be a horrible thing to see. Evidence to back this claim up is that i know of some boys looking at other clubs where they will get a run in seniors and reserves. Hope thats fact enough for you ‘one eyed’
Comment by hmmm — October 22, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
hmmm your first comment on the blog leads the reader to believe that clarence put out a side that did not contain any of the team that won the title this is not correct,everybody knows that the bulk of that side are ex-state players the club has been copping it from everyone about this all year.Now “considering your involvement” with the club i would have thought YOU could have picked a better time and place to air your obvious dislike for the way things at clarence are done than here on this blog. See you at the AGM where you can have your say to the whole club myself included !
Comment by one eyed — October 23, 2007 @ 7:37 am
Here’s an interesting article on talent scouting and some of the wrongs and rights in La Liga;
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=474717&root=europe&cc=3436&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab2pos1
Can anyone think of local players that weren’t given an opportunity at a given club but then went on to excel at another club?
Comment by Tommy — October 23, 2007 @ 9:11 am
tommy… one player that comes to mind is billy g from taroona. spinner didnt give him a chance at south so he went on to star in taroonas midfield. he was one of the most skillful players at south.
Comment by deano — October 23, 2007 @ 5:47 pm
Ok deano where would you play him in souths line up???
Comment by Hotshot — October 23, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
play a 3-5-2 and slot him in behind the strikers… perfect. for a player like billy, you just find room for him.
Comment by deano — October 23, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
Fletch has done well at Olympic since leaving Zebras!!!!
Comment by the real bob — October 23, 2007 @ 10:58 pm
And who would miss out deano???
Comment by Hotshot — October 24, 2007 @ 11:54 am